AGuest "Walking the puppies is fine (and I will miss that!) "
Too much information!
Anyhow, glad you are getting back to normal and are free of pain.
THE GLADIATOR
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Man-oh-man-oh-MAN... I am SO ready...
by AGuest into get back to work (peace to you all!).
yeah, yeah, i'm sure a couple/few of you here are ready for me to go back, too (lololol!).
kim kardashian's and company's just gonna have to forgive me... but my brain is about to go bonkers.
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The REAL atheist meaning of life . . .
by nicolaou inthere isn't one and that's a really good thing.
let me illustrate;.
you are an artist, you pick up a new canvas and place it on your easel.
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THE GLADIATOR
Life is not a blank canvas. It is a living canvass, which although we paint on, we are part of the canvass, part of the picture. We are both the artist and the painting. There is no final result because it is a living canvass.
We will not see the final painting because there is no final canvass. The painting goes on and artists keep appearing. We are one and the same.
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Do you hate God
by Star tiger ini beginning to think that this would be a good way of thinking, a totally righteous being would not let all the shit that is happenning to people prevail, this being cannot have the best interests of man as his first priority, it's all about ego and no matter how the human familty suffers, he hates pretty much everyone, as the tv show says, your fired, let's get a better god, one who at least gives everyone a chance!!.
i welcome comments from god apologists, to at least have an argument as to why they put they're faith in someone that does'nt give a shit about them!.
star tiger.
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THE GLADIATOR
Life's too short to waste time hating someone in a high place who leaves us alone.
Besides, at times I have found it more useful to have friends in low places.
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Why Women Are Treated Second Class In This Organization?
by AvocadoJake inthe best bible scholars have been women in my realm of this religious world.
the women study their husbands watchtowers, prepare the parts, write their talks, put their ties on, get the shave cream out of their ears.
it must be hard and you must have the patiences of job, to be able to listen to, the many arrogant men and how you will (if you are a female annointed.
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THE GLADIATOR
The Watchtower Society has based its structure on the old testament patriarchal system. This second class position for women is repeated by Saint Paul and has been perpetuated by fundamentalist Christians. The bible is all about heavenly kings, priests, father and son duos. Heaven is an all male club. Even female members of the annointed class become male when they get to heaven.
Mind you Muslims loyal to the Koran have an even worse view of woman. Allah and Jehovah were not enlightened gods. Probably the result of poor parenting!
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Is it God, the Bible or just the Dubs?
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THE GLADIATOR
startingover " I personally base my beliefs on reality no matter where it takes me."
To do that takes integrity and courage.
To be a seeker of truth regardless of where it leads, is the road less travelled.
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Is it God, the Bible or just the Dubs?
by Slidin Fast in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:documentproperties> <o:revision>0</o:revision> <o:totaltime>0</o:totaltime> <o:pages>1</o:pages> <o:words>181</o:words> <o:characters>850</o:characters> <o:company>shu</o:company> <o:lines>19</o:lines> <o:paragraphs>7</o:paragraphs> <o:characterswithspaces>1024</o:characterswithspaces> <o:version>14.0</o:version> </o:documentproperties> <o:officedocumentsettings> <o:allowpng /> </o:officedocumentsettings> </xml><!
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THE GLADIATOR
Tammy Qcmbr's Suggestion to solve your x factor problem is good.
An easier way may be to type using Microsoft Word. Go to Tools Auto Correct options. Paste in your missing X and set the computer to type X whenever you press #. Some other programmes also have an auto correct option.
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Is it God, the Bible or just the Dubs?
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THE GLADIATOR
As the beliefs we hold that bring us comfort, will die with us, we may as well embrace and enjoy them.
To get the best of both worlds, just keep a logical and focused view of the corporal world, while enjoying entertaining the possibility of a boundless and eternal universe that may have plans for us.
And our other choice is?
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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THE GLADIATOR
AGuest, I am touched by your post. Peace to you also.
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Is there a Jehovah's Witness gestalt?
by Terry inthere is a german word: gestalt which means that.......... something is more than the sum of its parts.. .
a diamond seems to be an excellent example of this principle, doesn't it?.
carbon (as in: carbon dioxide) is everywhere and it is "cheap".. but, diamonds are prized as very valuable and expensive.. a diamond, however, consists of almost entirely of : carbon.. .
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THE GLADIATOR
Terry "I guess the most significant event in my life was discovering I was not living in the same world as everybody else!
In effect, the Watchtower had hijacked the world and left me with a fake one.
I lived inside the fake one for almost 20 years."
This is a touching reflection on your life which I can empathise with. The difficulty is that there is no one real world, most of them are fake, that is man-made. The natural world is real but as humans we have a huge choice as to which human constructed world we will live in. A business man or a film star lives on the same earth as a tramp but does not live in the same world.
The choices we make in life will determine which world we live in. Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses was a good move but the game goes on until we are no more.
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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THE GLADIATOR
Having followed this most interesting debate, it seems that non-believers are not able to accept that decent Christian people can believe in a personal God of love who is prepared to allow suffering. Their conclusion is that God either does not exist or is an impersonal being who takes no responsibility for the state of the world.
For non-believers this a hypothetical debate whereas believers have a vested interest in defending a personal God of love who allows suffering. The Christians have explained how they are able to reconcile a God of love allowing suffering. Their answers have not satisfied those without faith. The debate has moved to a point where Christians are now being blamed for the suffering because they endorse this God. It is for this reason that the debate has become personal.
I do not believe in a personal God but accept that decent loving people can believe in a personal God who allows suffering. Although the logic of a personal God does not add up for me, it would be a mistake to become angry with loving people who view the big picture and still find room for belief in a personal God. Many of us once accepted the idea of Armageddon and showed our love by going from door-to-door warning others. We are still the same people.
Who knows how our views may change in the years ahead? The experience of those who have walked a path before us should not be seized upon as belief, or a shortcut to understanding. At the same time it would be unwise to disregard their sincere testimony or judge them because we have not arrived at the same place.